This reminds me of something I’d been thinking a lot lately, so I tell Beckham. It’s the difference between a moment and the moment. What is a part of our longer journey, and what is the defining part that changes everything, and how can we tell the difference? This can apply to personal loss, of course, but also in business: Something will change, or not go our way, and we may struggle to imagine what comes next. But something always does.

That resonates with Beckham. It’s a version of what he tells friends who are struggling. “I’ve said this so many times — I’m like, bro, just remember the other time where you thought you weren’t going to be able to keep going, and the worst fucking possible thing happened, and then you got over it,” he says. “And then it happened again, and this one was worse than the last. And it’s like, you just have to know that is going to happen. It is. And that’s kind of what you’re saying about a moment, not the moment. I don’t really know if there is the moment. There might be that once-in-a-lifetime thing, but I feel like if you’re waiting for that, you’re not being present, and you’re not living in a bunch of moments that are happening right in front of you.” – Odell Beckham